Allure Editor in Chief Michelle Lee joins Annie and Nick to talk shop: too many brands, the future of beauty tech, and how she gave everyone at the Conde Nast title a new role when she started in 2015. But first, QAnon vs. Sephora, and Ulta curves the 15 Percent Pledge.

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Brand founders, beauty editors, and creative-types Annie Kreighbaum (Glossier, Soft Services) and Nick Axelrod-Welk (Into The Gloss, Nécessaire) discuss industry news, start-up culture, and pop culture in their (mostly) weekly podcast, Eyewitness Beauty.
To hear full new episodes and to browse our four-year archive, subscribe to our Substack at eyewitnessbeauty.substack.com (https://eyewitnessbeauty.substack.com/) .
“My favorite podcast.” — Emily Sundberg, Feed Me (https://www.readfeedme.com/)
“This one’s for the Into The Gloss (https://intothegloss.com/) Day Ones.” — Vogue
Brand founders, beauty editors, and creative-types Annie Kreighbaum (Glossier, Soft Services) and Nick Axelrod-Welk (Into The Gloss, Nécessaire) discuss industry news, start-up culture, and pop culture in their (mostly) weekly podcast, Eyewitness Beauty.Listen on
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